with Ryan Gosling and Damien Chazelle

Ryan Gosling and director Damien Chazelle talk to Simon about their new film First Man. Plus the UK Box Office Top 10 and Mark reviews the week’s new films including First Man, Bad Times At The El Royale, 22 July and Smallfoot. Download the Kermode and Mayo podcast at bbc.co.uk/podcasts/5live. Email: mayo@bbc.co.uk Text: 85058 (charged at your standard network rate) Twitter: @wittertainment

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